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==Scribe Page Question==
== Wiki Editors ==
 
=== Welcome Lachlan! ===
Hey Lachlan!  I want to make a new page that will list all the scrolls by recipent (just a list without the thumbnails) and also link the same information on the page of each recipient.  So there will be one master list one could go to to see if a scroll had been done.  And one could also see the scrolls done for a person on their own page.  Can you tell me how to make a new page for the master list and what would be good formating for it?  Thanks!  [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 13:43, 3 November 2009 (PST)
Please join me in welcoming [[Lachlan of Cromarty]] back as the Administrator of the Caid Wiki. His dedication and devotion to the Wiki have been ever present since the birth of the Wiki and it is with complete confidence in his knowledge and leadership that the Wiki will continue to grow and prosper with his guidance. I want to thank all of the editors for your work on the Wiki. It has been an honor to be part of the team that continues Kolfinna's legacy ~ The Compendium Caidis. Thank you all for all that you do. --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 22:06, 3 April 2014 (PDT)
 
To make a new page, put the title you plan to use ("Scrolls by Recipient"?) into the search box and hit "Search". You'll get a page telling you no page was found with that title, and a link to create a the page. Click the link to get a standard edit box and start filling...
 
Format? How about:
 
*[[Aliskye MacKyven Raizel]]
:[[:Image:AlexandreLeBonhomme3.JPG|Award of Arms scroll]] by [[Alexandre le Bonhomme]]
:[[:Image:AlexandreLeBonhomme3.JPG|Crescent scroll]] by [[Alexandre le Bonhomme]]
*[[Lachlan of Cromarty]]
:[[:Image:Zenobia55.jpg|Award of Arms scroll]] by [[Zenobia Naphtali]]
:[[:Image:Zenobia55.jpg|Dolphin scroll]] by [[Zenobia Naphtali]]‎
 
Which comes from the code:
 
<code><nowiki>*[[Aliskye MacKyven Raizel]]</nowiki><br />
<nowiki>:[[:Image:AlexandreLeBonhomme3.JPG|Award of Arms scroll]] by [[Alexandre le Bonhomme]]</nowiki><br />
<nowiki>:[[:Image:AlexandreLeBonhomme3.JPG|Crescent scroll]] by [[Alexandre le Bonhomme]]</nowiki><br />
<nowiki>*[[Lachlan of Cromarty]]</nowiki><br />
<nowiki>:[[:Image:Zenobia55.jpg|Award of Arms scroll]] by [[Zenobia Naphtali]]</nowiki><br />
<nowiki>:[[:Image:Zenobia55.jpg|Dolphin scroll]] by [[Zenobia Naphtali]]‎</nowiki></code>
‎‎
 
Leading a line with ":" produces an "unordered" list without any bullet (as opposed to the more familiar "*" prefix, which gives you a bulleted list)--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 21:42, 3 November 2009 (PST)
: Thanks Lachlan!  I think that works perfectly.  Oh boy!  More work to do :) [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 22:59, 3 November 2009 (PST)
 
=== New Question ===
 
Hey Lachlan!  How do I make a new category?  I.E. A category for a scroll type that hasn't been used before?  Also, on the Category: Scrolls page, it starts with an alphabetic listing of categories, but not the Knight and Laurel entries (or anything past H in the alphabet).  What's up with that?  :)  [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 12:12, 19 November 2009 (PST)
*Adding a new category tag in any page automatically makes a new category with that name. A subcategory is created by placing a tag to the root category within the subcategory listing page. That's been done with [[:Category:Laurel Scrolls]] and [[:Category:Knight Scrolls]], but I don't know why they are not listed as subcategories of [[:Category:Scrolls]]. I did a bunch of minor edits trying to get it to work. I created a new subcategory, [[:Category:Leaf of Merit Scrolls]], but it was not listed. I could ''remove'' [[:Category:Harp Argent Scrolls]] as a subcategory of Scrolls, but it still didn't list any additional subcategories. A conumdrum.--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 14:09, 19 November 2009 (PST)
 
**The other categories are there, you just have to page through all the scroll pages to find them. I don't get it.  [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 15:43, 19 November 2009 (PST)
**So the category listing is alphabetizing all images under "I" for "Image:". That's inconvenient. It is possible to change a page's "sort key", the word or words the page will be alphabetized under. I've used this in the Populace category (An even bigger problem than the Scrolls category...) to make names like "Æduin of Skye" alphabetize it under "A" as if it were "AEduin of Skye", rather than placing it way at the end under "Æ". We could force all categories to alphabetize under "+[Name]", which would put them all in the front, alphabetized, but not under "A", "B", etc. Alternatives include not placing any of the images within the Scrolls root category (more the way categories/subcategories are designed to work) or change their sort key to be listed under, say, "~", which would place them all after "Z". Either would involve editing every image. (Sounds horrible, but pales in comparisson to editing every Populace page!) Let me give it a litte more thought.--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 16:00, 19 November 2009 (PST)
**It must be a bug in the "Magic Gallery" code. It should place all Media links below all Category and Pages links, but it seems to get wonkey when there are too many Media files. Yesterday, we changed the category page limit to 500, which helps a bit. At least it's only the third page where you find the rest of the subcategories. I do suspect that the best thing to do will be to remove <nowiki>[[Category:Scrolls]]</nowiki> from all the media pages. Then, when the user goes to "Category:Scrolls", they will only see a list of subcategories (and the two pages in the root category), and have to go to a subcategory to see the gallery. But it's up to you, of course.--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 11:20, 20 November 2009 (PST)
 
** Well, that sounds like a pain in the butt.  But I'd rather do that now and have the subcategories list properly.  Thanks for looking in to it!  P.S.  Does this mean you can't see all the scrolls at once, only by subcategory?  [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 12:18, 20 November 2009 (PST)
**Yes. Exactly.--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 14:40, 20 November 2009 (PST)
** Okay....so can we make a new subcategory that's Category - All scrolls so one still has the option of seeing the entire gallery at once?  [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 14:46, 20 November 2009 (PST)
**Yeah. Sure. That should work. Then at least you won't be putting subcategories and media gallery on the same listing page. I guess change <nowiki>[[Category:Scrolls]]</nowiki> to <nowiki>[[Category:All Scrolls]]</nowiki>--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 15:24, 20 November 2009 (PST)
**Thanks Lachlan!  I'm glad to know that I still have a wiki job when I finish uploading the photo album images.  :) [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 15:32, 20 November 2009 (PST)
**I'll gladly help you. We can work from the ends toward the middle or something. Just let me know when you want to undertake the project.--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 15:37, 20 November 2009 (PST)
**I'd love your help, but it looks like you're a little busy with this populace stuff right now.  :)  I was thinking of asking for help on the Scribes list.  I'm going to start from the back though.  I have about a page and a half of photo album images to do. [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 22:46, 20 November 2009 (PST)
 
== Editor ==
 
Lachlan, I would be honored.  I like helping, so that would not be a problem.  You could put me down for areas like General, Barony of the Angels, Early Caid.  Not claiming to be the ultimate expert on any of the three, you understand. :)
--[[User:James the Inconstant|James the Inconstant]] 22:58, 16 November 2009 (PST)
 
== AltaviaEvents ==
 
I'm not entirely certain it is necessary to have a AltaviaEvents category. Why not just categorize them under Altavia and Events?--Lachlan 22:40, 21 November 2009 (PST)
 
I created it so we could have a self-maintaining page of Altavia events instead of having to create a table that folks have to remember to update. Granted they have to remember to put AltaviaEvents on as a category, but it's more likely that they'll use previous events as a sample and so include the category than that they'll remember to update the table.--Lynnette 09:41, 22 November 2009 (PST)
 
I've not gotten the hang of these discussions .... I put this on my talk page, but I'm not sure you saw it ... so I'm putting it here now also ... HELP! How do I respond to User talk comments?--[[User:Lynnette|Lynnette]] 23:02, 23 November 2009 (PST)


== Test Area ==
== Test Area ==
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Whenever possible, [[:Category:Populace|populace]] articles should use the person's name as it is registered with the College of Arms of the Society. Unfortunately, many registered names use accented characters and a few non-Latin characters. When a name contains these characters, its article may be alphabetized by the Wiki some distance from where users will likely look for it. This is particularly true if the special character is the first or second character in the name. For example, the name "Þorfastr Varinsson" will be placed after names which start with "Z" and "Róis ni Brian" will be placed after "Ryuusaki Raiden".
Whenever possible, [[:Category:Populace|populace]] articles should use the person's name as it is registered with the College of Arms of the Society. Unfortunately, many registered names use accented characters and a few non-Latin characters. When a name contains these characters, its article may be alphabetized by the Wiki some distance from where users will likely look for it. This is particularly true if the special character is the first or second character in the name. For example, the name "Þorfastr Varinsson" will be placed after names which start with "Z" and "Róis ni Brian" will be placed after "Ryuusaki Raiden".
<!---
===Scrolls===
Scrolls created, in part or in whole, by Lachlan of Cromarty
<gallery perrow=6 heights=150px widths=100px>
Image:CoronationSpring03 8.JPG|Award of Arms for [[Muireadhach O'hEidhneacháin]]
Image:LachlanofCromarty1.jpg|Award of Arms for [[Margaret Elizabeth of Carlisle]]
Image:LachlanofCromarty2.jpg|Award of Arms (detail) for [[Margaret Elizabeth of Carlisle]]
Image: Coronation Winter 2013 064.JPG|Court Barony for [[Aliskye Rosel]]
Image: Coronation Winter 2013 066.JPG|Detail of Court Barony for [[Aliskye Rosel]]
Image: Coronation Winter 2013 067.JPG|Detail of Court Barony for [[Aliskye Rosel]]
Image: 12th Night 2015 Tezar Crescent.png‎|Crescent of Caid for [[Tezar of Aeolis]]
Image: 12th Night 2015 Tezar Crescent 2.png|Detail of Crescent of Caid for [[Tezar of Aeolis]]
Image:Colwyn White Scarf scroll1.jpg‎|White Scarf for [[Colwyn Stagghorn]]
</gallery>
--->
===PDF===
<code><nowiki>[[Media:Test.pdf|Submission Form Test (PDF)]]</nowiki></code>
...yields...
[[Media:Test.pdf|Submission Form Test (PDF)]]


===Sort Key===
===Sort Key===
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|Ó, ó
|Ó, ó
|O, o
|O, o
|}  
|}
 
===Collapsible tables?===
{| class="wikitable collapsible"
! Simple collapsible table
|-
| Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet
|}
 
Hmm. Did not work - may need extension.
 
===Captialization===
*[[argent blades]]
*[[Argent Blades]]
*[[LACHLAN OF CROMARTY]]
*[[lachlan of cromarty]]
*[[Lachlan of Cromarty]]
 
== Help with Scribal pages ==
Hey Lachlan!  I need a little help. I think I want to do a Scribe page for out of Kingdom scribes (we're getting a lot of help from outside Caid) and up until now, I've just been making a new scribe page for each one.  I'm not quite sure how to format it.  (I've forgotten what little I know about this stuff. :)  I'd appreciate your help.  Thanks!  aliskye (and I forgot how to do the little sig thing.)
 
Thanks Lachlan!  You fill me with confidence!  When I get the rest of the coronation scrolls uploaded I'll work on the new page.  (It's been really slow and awful editing the wiki lately, or is that just my computer which sorely needs to be replaced.) Look signature:  --[[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 16:29, 9 July 2013 (PDT)


== Admin Notes ==
Users can no longer create accounts. This process can only be completed through the Administrative Staff. Go to [[Help:New Users]] for instructions! --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 12:12, 23 November 2013 (PST)


Editors - If you no longer wish to be an active editor, please contact me via email at [mailto:wiki@caid-commons.org wiki@caid-commons.org] to let me know. The only difference would be that you would no longer be listed on the Editor staff, and would no longer be expected to assume the responsibilities of an editor. You would still be able to edit pages on the Wiki. Thank you for all you have contributed to the Caid Wiki! --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 12:12, 23 November 2013 (PST)
== New Help with Scribe pages ==
Lachlan, can you delete the page for [[Vashey Bat Abraham]]?  I added him when he did a scroll for us, but I've since started to move all the "foreign" scribes to a single page.  We don't need Vashey's page any more.  Thanks!  [[User:Aliskye|Aliskye]] 16:04, 23 July 2014 (PDT)


== Thank You! ==
== Thank You! ==
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Lachlan, Thank you for all the time and effort you have put into the wiki office, and your willingness to step up as administrator when you were needed. Thank you for staying on as an editor. It is very much appreciated! --[[User:Kottr|Kolfinna]] 10:53, 7 August 2009 (PDT)
Lachlan, Thank you for all the time and effort you have put into the wiki office, and your willingness to step up as administrator when you were needed. Thank you for staying on as an editor. It is very much appreciated! --[[User:Kottr|Kolfinna]] 10:53, 7 August 2009 (PDT)


==Dreiburgen Category==
== GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves ==
Thanks for the clarification. Appropriate chances have been made.
 
--[[User talk:Malcolm|Malcolm Alberic]] 13:31, 21 December 2009 (PST)
I don't want to add something to this wiki without knowing if it's OK, so wanted to check first.
 
The SCA, and people of [[Dreiburgen]] in particular, are referenced/hinted at in the new role-playing supplement ''GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves.'' which I wrote under my modern name. (Note that the creator of ''GURPS'', Steve Jackson, is an SCA baron, and several ''GURPS'' writers and artists have been involved in the SCA).


==Duplicate Pages==
In part I thank "...the Ek-sen-trik Mountain SCAdians...." The Ek-sen-triks Cluborguild was a college club which more or less became House Grimlove which largely began the Dreiburgen Canton of [[Gallavally]].


*[[Deirdre McCarthaigh]]
"Mountain" refers to the mountains of Dreiburgen, and "SCAdians" of course refers to the SCA. I also have "The elven warbow some call ''pagrimuslovus'' is a type of composite longbow made of heartwood, sapwood, and horn, with a string of plant and animal fiber." Caidan [[Paganus Grimlove]] helped me develop that bow and the elven seabow. Caidan [[Rekon of Saaremaa]] was the one who came up with a natural material that would work for the elven seabow.
*[[Deirdre MxCarthaigh]]


Neither are registered through the OandA but both are listed in the Order of Precedence. Awards are only listed for the first spelling. Should [[Deirdre MxCarthaigh]] be redirected to the [[Deirdre McCarthaigh]] or are both pages valid? --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 00:48, 9 February 2010 (PST)
Note that when I started with ''GURPS'' as a gamemaster (I had never played the game before, although I was first told about it by a Caidan), every one of my players was a Caidan active in the SCA, [[Eldwin Nightowl|as was I]]. Now, I'm only active online as I currently live in the middle of nowhere, three days travel by horse from the nearest SCA group. I'm admin of the unfortunately not very active right now [http://sca.fandom.com SCA Wiki]).
*I'm sure they are the same person. Make the "Mx..." spelling a redirect to the "Mc..." spelling.--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 10:51, 9 February 2010 (PST)
*Will do, Thanks Lachlan! --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 21:55, 10 February 2010 (PST)


==Populace Pages==
Would an article on ''GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves'' fit this wiki? [[User:Eldwin Nightowl|Eldwin Nightowl]] ([[User talk:Eldwin Nightowl|talk]]) 14:29, 28 October 2021 (PDT)
*Finished D. I noticed that you finished F so shall I do E next or C? --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 23:49, 10 February 2010 (PST)
*Finished C. Where to next? --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 03:56, 16 February 2010 (PST) Heading on to B --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 17:54, 16 February 2010 (PST)
*Finished B. --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 19:58, 16 February 2010 (PST)
**Hehe. I guess y'all are doing fine. Sorry that I've gotten caught up in Olympics, so have not been around much last weekend.--[[User:Lachlan|Lachlan]] 10:29, 17 February 2010 (PST)
*Finished E. LOL sounds like me Lachlan, I've been watching the Olympics too! You can delete my notes here anytime you want, I just wanted to make sure you knew which letters I had finished up so you wouldn't have to bother checking pages. I'll start on A next though that one might take a few days (lots of A names in Caid lol). You've put in so much time and work on the Wiki, I think some time off is long overdue! ;) --[[User:Valdis isbrandsdottir|Valdis]] 18:20, 18 February 2010 (PST)

Latest revision as of 13:29, 28 October 2021

Wiki Editors

Welcome Lachlan!

Please join me in welcoming Lachlan of Cromarty back as the Administrator of the Caid Wiki. His dedication and devotion to the Wiki have been ever present since the birth of the Wiki and it is with complete confidence in his knowledge and leadership that the Wiki will continue to grow and prosper with his guidance. I want to thank all of the editors for your work on the Wiki. It has been an honor to be part of the team that continues Kolfinna's legacy ~ The Compendium Caidis. Thank you all for all that you do. --Valdis 22:06, 3 April 2014 (PDT)

Test Area

I use this section to work on wording for new articles as needed. Anything herein should be considered "unofficial", at best.

Whenever possible, populace articles should use the person's name as it is registered with the College of Arms of the Society. Unfortunately, many registered names use accented characters and a few non-Latin characters. When a name contains these characters, its article may be alphabetized by the Wiki some distance from where users will likely look for it. This is particularly true if the special character is the first or second character in the name. For example, the name "Þorfastr Varinsson" will be placed after names which start with "Z" and "Róis ni Brian" will be placed after "Ryuusaki Raiden".

PDF

[[Media:Test.pdf|Submission Form Test (PDF)]] ...yields... Submission Form Test (PDF)

Sort Key

A sort key specifies where the page will appear in the category list, and under which letter heading. (By default, the page is sorted under the first letter of its full name including its namespace.) You can add a sort key to a page by adding it inside the Category tag. For example, adding the tag "[[Category:Populace|Thorfastr Varinsson]]" to the article "Þorfastr Varinsson" would place the article in the Populace category with the "T" names, as expected by users. The altered sort key is not visible to users, however. Only the registered spelling will appear in the category listing, article heading, etc.

Compendium Caidis Sorting

character becomes
Þ, þ Th, th
Ó, ó O, o

Collapsible tables?

Simple collapsible table
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet

Hmm. Did not work - may need extension.

Captialization

Help with Scribal pages

Hey Lachlan! I need a little help. I think I want to do a Scribe page for out of Kingdom scribes (we're getting a lot of help from outside Caid) and up until now, I've just been making a new scribe page for each one. I'm not quite sure how to format it. (I've forgotten what little I know about this stuff. :) I'd appreciate your help. Thanks! aliskye (and I forgot how to do the little sig thing.)

Thanks Lachlan! You fill me with confidence! When I get the rest of the coronation scrolls uploaded I'll work on the new page. (It's been really slow and awful editing the wiki lately, or is that just my computer which sorely needs to be replaced.) Look signature: --Aliskye 16:29, 9 July 2013 (PDT)

Admin Notes

Users can no longer create accounts. This process can only be completed through the Administrative Staff. Go to Help:New Users for instructions! --Valdis 12:12, 23 November 2013 (PST)

Editors - If you no longer wish to be an active editor, please contact me via email at wiki@caid-commons.org to let me know. The only difference would be that you would no longer be listed on the Editor staff, and would no longer be expected to assume the responsibilities of an editor. You would still be able to edit pages on the Wiki. Thank you for all you have contributed to the Caid Wiki! --Valdis 12:12, 23 November 2013 (PST)

New Help with Scribe pages

Lachlan, can you delete the page for Vashey Bat Abraham? I added him when he did a scroll for us, but I've since started to move all the "foreign" scribes to a single page. We don't need Vashey's page any more. Thanks! Aliskye 16:04, 23 July 2014 (PDT)

Thank You!

Lachlan, Thank you for all the time and effort you have put into the wiki office, and your willingness to step up as administrator when you were needed. Thank you for staying on as an editor. It is very much appreciated! --Kolfinna 10:53, 7 August 2009 (PDT)

GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves

I don't want to add something to this wiki without knowing if it's OK, so wanted to check first.

The SCA, and people of Dreiburgen in particular, are referenced/hinted at in the new role-playing supplement GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves. which I wrote under my modern name. (Note that the creator of GURPS, Steve Jackson, is an SCA baron, and several GURPS writers and artists have been involved in the SCA).

In part I thank "...the Ek-sen-trik Mountain SCAdians...." The Ek-sen-triks Cluborguild was a college club which more or less became House Grimlove which largely began the Dreiburgen Canton of Gallavally.

"Mountain" refers to the mountains of Dreiburgen, and "SCAdians" of course refers to the SCA. I also have "The elven warbow some call pagrimuslovus is a type of composite longbow made of heartwood, sapwood, and horn, with a string of plant and animal fiber." Caidan Paganus Grimlove helped me develop that bow and the elven seabow. Caidan Rekon of Saaremaa was the one who came up with a natural material that would work for the elven seabow.

Note that when I started with GURPS as a gamemaster (I had never played the game before, although I was first told about it by a Caidan), every one of my players was a Caidan active in the SCA, as was I. Now, I'm only active online as I currently live in the middle of nowhere, three days travel by horse from the nearest SCA group. I'm admin of the unfortunately not very active right now SCA Wiki).

Would an article on GURPS Fantasy Folk: Elves fit this wiki? Eldwin Nightowl (talk) 14:29, 28 October 2021 (PDT)

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